New ground plans

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Re: New ground plans

Post by kansasCard » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:37 pm

skippy wrote:
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Why pay to get something done if you can get it done for free?
A professional working pro bono is still a professional.

Anyway the club have previously asked for volunteers and taken details so no doubt they'll be looking to follow up on that.
I stand corrected. :-)
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Re: New ground plans

Post by skippy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:31 pm

Well that was an interesting evening.
It seems that Wayne (doesn't care about football) Gold may not be having the shares and it will be the Leslie's (if you consider Tottenham to be football) that will be the major shareholders.
Stadium looks good, as does the whole development*, still plenty of things to be finalised and not everyone will be happy but it currently looks a lot better than most other new stadiums.


*with the proviso that I personally don't want see see any buildings over 4 storeys south of the town centre.

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Re: New ground plans

Post by doylie » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:32 pm

Very impressive, professional and positive presentation tonight I thought.

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Re: New ground plans

Post by AndyT » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:34 pm

From the photos I’ve seen on Facebook it doesn’t look anywhere near a 10,000 capacity stadium and it looks very cramped down one side. Still I will see for myself on Tuesday.

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Re: New ground plans

Post by jonwoozley » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:48 pm

That is Cheltenham's or Kidderminster's stadium plonked in Portishead harbour. Where are all of the double parked cars, with buses that can't get past them, in the drawings?
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Re: New ground plans

Post by SussexSeasider » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:52 pm

AndyT wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:34 pm
From the photos I’ve seen on Facebook it doesn’t look anywhere near a 10,000 capacity stadium and it looks very cramped down one side. Still I will see for myself on Tuesday.
The Council are insistent on 10,000 seats at the moment. The one shown is fractionally less and if more standing is requested it would lower it even more which they would have to discuss with the Council. When I say more standing I mean something like a Moaners Corner which they are well aware fans might want

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Re: New ground plans

Post by AndyT » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:59 pm

SussexSeasider wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:52 pm
AndyT wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:34 pm
From the photos I’ve seen on Facebook it doesn’t look anywhere near a 10,000 capacity stadium and it looks very cramped down one side. Still I will see for myself on Tuesday.
The Council are insistent on 10,000 seats at the moment. The one shown is fractionally less and if more standing is requested it would lower it even more which they would have to discuss with the Council. When I say more standing I mean something like a Moaners Corner which they are well aware fans might want
Did they say why they are insistent on having 10,000 seats? The inference being that there will be no standing which is just ludicrous at our level. I can see this becoming a white elephant.

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Re: New ground plans

Post by KT14_Card » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:10 pm

AndyT wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:59 pm
SussexSeasider wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:52 pm


The Council are insistent on 10,000 seats at the moment. The one shown is fractionally less and if more standing is requested it would lower it even more which they would have to discuss with the Council. When I say more standing I mean something like a Moaners Corner which they are well aware fans might want
Did they say why they are insistent on having 10,000 seats? The inference being that there will be no standing which is just ludicrous at our level. I can see this becoming a white elephant.
it was something to do with the stand back in 92' stating should we redevelop the ground it would have to be 10k. (at least thats what i got from the presentation tonight but im sure they'd happily explain)

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Re: New ground plans

Post by Meerkat » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:13 pm

Has all seater not been dropped? Surely we have to have terraces at at least one end?

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Re: New ground plans

Post by skippy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:22 pm

SS typo there I think, 10,000 capacity not seats, currently the design is split 50/50 seats/standing.

The one shown is fractionally less and if more standing is requested it would lower it even more which they would have to discuss with the Council.

That bit didn't make sense as usually seating reduces capacity in stands, but I forgot to ask a question about that.

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Re: New ground plans

Post by doylie » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:23 pm

Standing behind each goal, with additional seating above the segregated away terrace. The club currently has about 80 parking spaces, there’s 70 allowed for in the new development, so plenty of space for woozley’s imaginary buses to get past.
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Re: New ground plans

Post by skippy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:37 pm

Except on matchdays when the road is shut and there's 750 car drivers that are trapped in/locked out.
A bit shit on the occasional Tuesday when they can't get home from work, then where do they park?

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Re: New ground plans

Post by doylie » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:43 pm

Why? All parts of the development have access roads from Westfield Avenue when the vista is pedestrianised on matchdays.
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Re: New ground plans

Post by skippy » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:19 am

Pretty sure those access roads are off the new development road, there appeared to be two connections on to Westfield Avenue, the main access and the fire access road. The fire access road didn't appear to connect to any of the blocks and connected at the corner of the ground leaving at least 4 blocks trapped in at the moment.

I was being a tad facetious as the plans are still in pencil and not ink.

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Re: New ground plans

Post by doylie » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:51 am

No, there are access roads roads between all three blocks and another road (where the current David Lloyd access is) to the final part of the development behind the away end which all lead on to Westfield Avenue.
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Re: New ground plans

Post by jonwoozley » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:11 am

doylie wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:23 pm
Standing behind each goal, with additional seating above the segregated away terrace. The club currently has about 80 parking spaces, there’s 70 allowed for in the new development, so plenty of space for woozley’s imaginary buses to get past.
If you build 700 flats and have 70 parking spaces do you not think a bus route is going to be needed? People still have two cars per household even if planners are in denial and councillors are trying to get people away from cars.

Maybe they could do food drops like Berlin in 1945?

Everyone should visit Portishead at rush hour to get a feel of how it will be. I'm not sure I would want to go anywhere near the ground on a matchday, and if I did I'm not sure I could.
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Re: New ground plans

Post by doylie » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:29 am

There will be 70 parking spaces for the FOOTBALL CLUB, whereas there are around 80 at the moment. There’s underground parking in each of the development’s blocks. As for food drops, you do realise there’s going to be 4,400 sq ft of retail space (for the club to benefit from) incorporated into the stadium building right? They won’t have to drop the grub more than 150 yards.

As for you not coming near the ground on matchdays - we managed to cope when you lost interest the last time.
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Re: New ground plans

Post by jonwoozley » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:31 am

Kingfield Ender wrote:
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Still no mention of the bottle bar.........
I'm going to be radical and instead of a bottle bar or a Fosters Shack, how about a can bar, only playing Bad Manners songs such as Lip Up Fatty?
Or how about Rock the Can Bar by The Clash?
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Re: New ground plans

Post by jonwoozley » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:48 am

doylie wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:29 am

As for you not coming near the ground on matchdays - we managed to cope when you lost interest the last time.
Ouch. Play nicely.
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Re: New ground plans

Post by FaitAccompli » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:38 am

doylie wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:32 pm
Very impressive, professional and positive presentation tonight I thought.

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Any other photos of the plans for those who couldn't attend?

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Re: New ground plans

Post by SussexSeasider » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:02 am

skippy wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:22 pm
SS typo there I think, 10,000 capacity not seats, currently the design is split 50/50 seats/standing.

The one shown is fractionally less and if more standing is requested it would lower it even more which they would have to discuss with the Council.

That bit didn't make sense as usually seating reduces capacity in stands, but I forgot to ask a question about that.
Yes sorry - I meant capacity. God forbid 10,000 seats!!! Can't stand sitting unless absolutely necessary!

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Re: New ground plans

Post by SussexSeasider » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:04 am

FaitAccompli wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:38 am
doylie wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:32 pm
Very impressive, professional and positive presentation tonight I thought.

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Any other photos of the plans for those who couldn't attend?
Hopefully they'll update the Wokingcommunitystadium.co.uk web page with the new plans which are really impressive. I took photos of lots of the CGIs but don't know how to stick them on here!

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Re: New ground plans

Post by doylie » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:21 am

There are a few on my Cardinal Tales Twitter, but I'm sure the website will go live shortly as they are presenting to local residents from today.

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Re: New ground plans

Post by Kanu's Nan » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:23 am

jonwoozley wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:11 am
doylie wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:23 pm
Standing behind each goal, with additional seating above the segregated away terrace. The club currently has about 80 parking spaces, there’s 70 allowed for in the new development, so plenty of space for woozley’s imaginary buses to get past.
If you build 700 flats and have 70 parking spaces do you not think a bus route is going to be needed? People still have two cars per household even if planners are in denial and councillors are trying to get people away from cars.
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Re: New ground plans

Post by Reading Card » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:27 am

I know its meant to be all doom and gloom on cardsboard but those mock up drawings look amazing.


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