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Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:45 pm
by Nick
WFC96 wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:40 pm
I find it amazing that they are still defending that defeat on shotsweb. If we lost 7-0 to a team 2 leagues below us with any team then I’d be embarrassed. Really does go to show how great our youth team is given how many former Woking youth players we have in our squad.

Agreed, as Jacob put on Twitter earlier Scott Harrison has done a fantastic job with the academy.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:49 pm
by darreng
Nick wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:45 pm
WFC96 wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:40 pm
I find it amazing that they are still defending that defeat on shotsweb. If we lost 7-0 to a team 2 leagues below us with any team then I’d be embarrassed. Really does go to show how great our youth team is given how many former Woking youth players we have in our squad.

Agreed, as Jacob put on Twitter earlier Scott Harrison has done a fantastic job with the academy.
I was discussing with an Aldershot fan yesterday how they never bring anyone through their academy. Even worse, they released their youth player of the year for last season who went on to make his debut for Crawley in October.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:57 pm
by Lurker
WFC96 wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:40 pm
I find it amazing that they are still defending that defeat on shotsweb. If we lost 7-0 to a team 2 leagues below us with any team then I’d be embarrassed. Really does go to show how great our youth team is given how many former Woking youth players we have in our squad.
Bedford are three levels below Aldershot, not two.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:50 pm
by Growler
Lurker wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:57 pm
WFC96 wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:40 pm
I find it amazing that they are still defending that defeat on shotsweb. If we lost 7-0 to a team 2 leagues below us with any team then I’d be embarrassed. Really does go to show how great our youth team is given how many former Woking youth players we have in our squad.
Bedford are three levels below Aldershot, not two.
Pedant* alert: that’s not what s/he said though

*Sorry to go a bit Descartes on ya ass there and that :-(

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:44 pm
by JAM
In a bad week for Aldershot, their resident James Wade didn't cover himself in glory last night at the darts either

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/46628194
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/46632477

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:18 pm
by Red and White Army
JAM wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:44 pm
In a bad week for Aldershot, their resident James Wade didn't cover himself in glory last night at the darts either

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/46628194
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/46632477
Aldershot fans are blaming Seigo Asada for allowing Wade to get so close to him.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:17 pm
by scorp
Birdman wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:38 pm
ABR wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:58 pm
This birdman guy. Why come on here to defend. I thought your board was shots web.
ABR, as Stoo has said, explanations from our side are fair. Just to balance things out for you, Kanu's Nan and Kingfield Ender occasionally post on Shotsweb, even on non-Woking threads. I have no qualms about that as it can put a different perspective on things.
And, Birdie, they are made welcome, as you know.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:45 pm
by Ashcard
Blimey Scorp, top marks there for bringing back to life such an old thread!

With resurrection qualities like that, have you thought about putting your name forward to help something like- i dunno, a struggling relegation threatened football team in poor form and in dire straights into a biblical monumental recovery?

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:57 am
by Stoo
They dropped into the bottom four at the weekend.

It all feels a bit horribly familiar to what happened to us last season.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:42 am
by AndyT
Stoo wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:57 am
They dropped into the bottom four at the weekend.

It all feels a bit horribly familiar to what happened to us last season.
This time last year we were still comfortably in mid table and only dropped into the bottom four a couple of weeks from the end of the season. Even then we had the chances to save ourselves but f**ked them up. Aldershot still have plenty of time to pull themselves away from the relegation zone. Whether they have the ability, determination, squad to do so is a different discussion.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:48 am
by Kingfield Ender
They also have a lot less points than we did this time last year

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:06 am
by oakie
They are bottom of the Form Table over last 8 games - 0 W 3 D 5 L - Scored 5 Conceded 14
Lowest scorers in the division - just 24 in 28 games
Third worst goal difference at -21 (Braintree -28 and Maidenhead -22)

Do they have enough about them to turn that around?

Braintree look down already but I don't readily see 3 other names who will definitely finish below Aldershot

Chesterfield have drawn 14 out of 28 so if they can start scoring should pick up points and potentially move out of danger, their GD is mid-table
Maidstone have started a bounce since binning off Wheeler

They have very few games left to play against those around them & a horrid run of fixtures in March - Gateshead (H), Barrow (A), Orient (H), Salford (H), Boreham Wood (A), Fylde (H) - there going to need to win some of those home games. The trip to Maidstone at end of April could be a relegation decider

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:27 am
by Stoo
I don't want them to go down. I missed the two games against them at Christmas, usual results notwithstanding.

An away crowd on boxing day of about 50 or an away crowd on NYD of about 1200. The derbies against Hampton were soul destroying, not least because they were so bloody easy.

Financially I think we need Shots as much as they need us.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:37 am
by Since85
The Hampton supporters were quieter than the proverbial church mice
Our chav firm must miss those Shots games also, not sure I miss the last half a dozen or so (was Gez winner in the last half a dozen?)

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:56 pm
by Red and White Army
Stoo wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:27 am
I don't want them to go down. I missed the two games against them at Christmas, usual results notwithstanding.

An away crowd on boxing day of about 50 or an away crowd on NYD of about 1200. The derbies against Hampton were soul destroying, not least because they were so bloody easy.

Financially I think we need Shots as much as they need us.
Good to see we've already secured promotion then :)

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:17 pm
by KT14_Card
Anyone else see Mr waddock here tonight? Let's hope he wasn't scouting anyone...

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:22 pm
by Eggie James
Yes saw him leave
Hopefully looking at Welling player!!!

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:48 pm
by Ashcard
He was probably just checking out the standard of the NLS in preparation for next season.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:37 am
by Dan
Stoo wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:27 am
I don't want them to go down. I missed the two games against them at Christmas, usual results notwithstanding.

An away crowd on boxing day of about 50 or an away crowd on NYD of about 1200. The derbies against Hampton were soul destroying, not least because they were so bloody easy.

Financially I think we need Shots as much as they need us.
It might not be the worst thing in the world for them to go down. As you say it's eerily similar to what happened to us, they are in free fall, disgruntled fan base and they need a clean out from top to bottom.

A season lording it down here whilst they get their house in order might breath a bit of life back into them, as it has done for us

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:57 am
by scorp
Ashcard wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:45 pm
Blimey Scorp, top marks there for bringing back to life such an old thread!

With resurrection qualities like that, have you thought about putting your name forward to help something like- i dunno, a struggling relegation threatened football team in poor form and in dire straights into a biblical monumental recovery?
"Blimey Scorp, top marks there for bringing back to life such an old thread!"

Always happy to oblige :-)

Can I save ATFC as well? Perhaps only if i find a sizeable wad of dosh in the chairman's pocket, but i suggest the real reason the Shots are struggling is because he and Waddock got complacent/over confident after 2 good seasons and thought it would be a doddle to survive after dismantling a successful team in order to save money.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:58 am
by scorp
Dan wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:37 am
Stoo wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:27 am
I don't want them to go down. I missed the two games against them at Christmas, usual results notwithstanding.

An away crowd on boxing day of about 50 or an away crowd on NYD of about 1200. The derbies against Hampton were soul destroying, not least because they were so bloody easy.

Financially I think we need Shots as much as they need us.
It might not be the worst thing in the world for them to go down. As you say it's eerily similar to what happened to us, they are in free fall, disgruntled fan base and they need a clean out from top to bottom.

A season lording it down here whilst they get their house in order might breath a bit of life back into them, as it has done for us
I expected Woking to make a strong comeback at some stage, but the speed of it thus far has been ... interesting.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:13 pm
by skippy
Our current team is nowhere near as good as our team that won the Conf South, yet we have a similar number of points at the same stage.
I think the speed of our recovery is somewhat down to the NLs being a poor league.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:35 pm
by WFC96
skippy wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:13 pm
Our current team is nowhere near as good as our team that won the Conf South, yet we have a similar number of points at the same stage.
I think the speed of our recovery is somewhat down to the NLs being a poor league.
That really was a cracking team. King, McNerney and Cowan-Hall all have had/still have long stints in the league, Ricketts and Murtugh could easily have been promoted from the National with Boreham Wood last year and that's before you even mention the likes of Gez, Doyle, Inn, Newton and Betsy.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:01 pm
by scorp
skippy wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:13 pm
Our current team is nowhere near as good as our team that won the Conf South, yet we have a similar number of points at the same stage.
I think the speed of our recovery is somewhat down to the NLs being a poor league.
"I think the speed of our recovery is somewhat down to the NLs being a poor league"

Encouraging for any national league side getting relegated to it, but then there's the reality of how will it fare as and when it gets back into the national league - as perhaps you indicate, one way or another.

Re: Aldershot

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:15 pm
by skippy
Our defeat to Maidstone in the trophy suggests where our current team would be in the NL.